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Old 07-04-2006, 08:59 AM
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I wish I could answer that but I cannot for like I said, I am not the best person ask, I what little I know and grasp many things but without the ability to explain them very well.

I understand this of course, but would not The Bible explain this, or does it litteraly say that everyone went to Hell before Jesus?

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Now that is a very watered down version of the example but it works for this topic.

Rather a humble god, that.

But I wonder where people do get these bits of..philosophy, or information if you will.
If they just make it up, how can anyone be convinced?

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It was a sacrifice! Jesus still had to go through all that pain and tourcher.

Well, as I understand it, Jesus was like Superman. He could have easily pointed to anyone and die they would.
So who knows if the pain He felt would have been to the equivalent of a normal mortal's physical take upon the sensation?

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He sent His only begotten son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Only those who believe? If I am a lost sheep, would not God wish to find me if He loves me so much?

There are different variations of God and what sort of god He may be like, I can see.

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Take your chances with the Devil? In hell there is only seperation and pain. You will be in complete darkness. You are being desieved as Ansem was, if I shall use the comparison.

Funny hoe deceit on behalf of Satan feels so different then when a normal person deceives me. Well. He is Satan, after all.

Well...these thoughts I have upon the subject are clear to me, my views and opinions are clear to me, as are my beliefs and goals.

If deceit is a clear perception of oneself and one's surroundings, I fear what faith must be like.

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The reason why we know so little is because sin seperates up from God. If Adam and Eve did not sin, then we would all be believers and know more. But we don't. So God wants us to trust the unseen. It makes the bond stronger. I got more where that came from, too.

I have heard that before, from a great friend of mine.

But...I cannot abide by the suggestion that the state of humanity be blamed on two people who ate an apple they were not meant to touch because a snake told them to.

Why should we suffer because of them?

I can understand, to an extent, what you say of forging a bond, but what has it to do with putting your trust in what you cannot see?
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