God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit

[Zorrin Cthan]

Why did god get so pissed off over someone eating an apple anyway? i mean its not like they were magic apples, it shoulda just been like:
"Dude you ate my apple i told you not to eat!"
"Hey man i'm sorry it's just it looked so tasty and that blasted snake was telling me to, i wont do it again"

I mean whats wrong with that?
Z

[Snaggle_Tongue]

It was the one thing He asked them not to do.
Eating from the tree of wisdom lost them their innocence; Eating from the tree also caused the evils apects of humans.
Apparently.

[Zeanith CloudCatcher]

Originally Posted by Snaggle_Tongue

Oh, you know APC, that's good to know.
Actually, Hazuki would probably never like APC.
on that note, I like APC. Although eMOTIVE totally equals a hippy CD. good though.
Also, just because they don't agree and speak their own view, doesnt mean they're wrong.

I know, I was just sharing my opinion.
APC is my favorite band. What's wrong with hippies?

---back on topic---
I'm Christian, although I don't push my religeon upon others.
It's not like I was saying:
Jesus can save your soul. Just accept him and you won't burn", ect.
I respect other people's opinions.

Snaggle Tongue, I just read your post on the Tree of Wisdom. You know a lot. Are you sure you're not a Christian?
You were probably raised as one and you converted later on in life, right?
I used to be wiccan, until I realized that wicca is just a laughable knockoff of Paganism.

[Snaggle_Tongue]

Originally Posted by Zeanith CloudCatcher

I know, I was just sharing my opinion.
APC is my favorite band. What's wrong with hippies?

---back on topic---
I'm Christian, although I don't push my religeon upon others.
It's not like I was saying:
Jesus can save your soul. Just accept him and you won't burn", ect.
I respect other people's opinions.

Snaggle Tongue, I just read your post on the Tree of Wisdom. You know a lot. Are you sure you're not a Christian?
You were probably raised as one and you converted later on in life, right?
I used to be wiccan, until I realized that wicca is just a laughable knockoff of Paganism.

Actually: No.
I have Never really belonged to any religion; I have, however, made a point to not argue against anything I am ignorant of. I know the legend of Adam and Eve; Some bits I can eve quote. I own several Bibles and Testaments.
I was never raised to be any religion ; I was raised to question everything, and so to believe in whichever God I chose. I was raised to have utter and total free will. But, this will surprise you to hear, I was raised by myself.
I do not try to convince people not to believe. Not really. I have utmost respect for people who do believe, if they do not try and force that upon me. However, I like to make people think about what it is they believe; The good and the bad, the laws and the tradition.
The Christian Bible has an extremely respectable foundation; Love, honour, trust, forgiveness. However, with the corruption and obsession of man also came a disfiguring of this basis. Murder, stoning, forever holding anonymity and so on became accepted - Even encouranged.
No, I hold no disregard in religion.
You could say my belief in man is a little less certain, though.
Also, Wiccanism? Isn't a knock-off of Paganism: Paganism means "of the country." Paganism, simply, is any religion which isn't one of the mains; Christianity, Catholicsm, Hinduism, Islamic and, most recently, Voodoo. Everything, however, is a branch of Paganism, wether or not the religion actually accepts this.

[Zeanith CloudCatcher]

Originally Posted by Snaggle_Tongue

Actually: No.
I have Never really belonged to any religion; I have, however, made a point to not argue against anything I am ignorant of. I know the legend of Adam and Eve; Some bits I can eve quote. I own several Bibles and Testaments.
I was never raised to be any religion ; I was raised to question everything, and so to believe in whichever God I chose. I was raised to have utter and total free will.
I do not try to convince people not to believe. Not really. I have utmost respect for people who do believe, if they do not try and force that upon me. However, I like to make people think about what it is they believe; The good and the bad, the laws and the tradition.
The Christian Bible has an extremely respectable foundation; Love, honour, trust, forgiveness. However, with the corruption and obsession of man also came a disfiguring of this basis. Murder, stoning, forever holding anonymity and so on became accepted - Even encouranged.
No, I hold no disregard in religion.
You could say my belief in man is a little less certain, though.
Also, Wiccanism? Isn't a knock-off of Paganism: Paganism means "of the country." Paganism, simply, is any religion which isn't one of the mains: Christianity, Catholicsm, Hinduism, Islamic and, most recently, Voodoo. Everything, hoever, is a branch of Paganism, wether or not the religion actually accepts this.

O.O
You...are...a...genious.

[khil1]

So Snaggle, what keeps you from believing in religion?

[Snaggle_Tongue]

Hmmm...I believe everything is fallable, even a God.
I do not know if a God even exsists; I am set upon the line. I think we cannot possibly know until we die if there is a God, or an afterlife, or even re-incarnation. Or maybe, even then, we are not given this knowledge?
I am a scholar at heart. I love knowledge for the sake of knowledge. With this, however, I hold alot of fear. I fear, like any other, the unknown.
This does tie into why I do not believe in a God. I could never love and devote myself to a God that I feared; And I certainly fear those, in a sense, who could possibly know everything. It was cause too many questions, and not all would be answered.

[khil1]

But for God to be God, he cannot be fallible.
You will not love and devote yourself to God because he knows everything and it would create questions, not all of which would be answer?
Why must they be answered?

You said you do not think we can know about the afterlife until we are dead. So what will you do? Will you say "Dang, looks like God was real and I was wrong." The only other option is it choose to have faith now rather than wait for the answer.

[Kefka]

Originally Posted by khil1

But for God to be God, he cannot be fallible.
You will not love and devote yourself to God because he knows everything and it would create questions, not all of which would be answer?
Why must they be answered?

God can't be all knowing; for him to be "all-knowing" he'd have to know everything what's happened upto this point in our lives, God would only know what happened upto where he "supposedly" created the universe, you don't see God chatting about football or anything like that do you?

Originally Posted by khil1

You said you do not think we can know about the afterlife until we are dead. So what will you do? Will you say "Dang, looks like God was real and I was wrong." The only other option is it choose to have faith now rather than wait for the answer.

How can you have faith in something which you don't know exists? Either God truely exists and just won't show us the afterlife until after we die, which is kinda stupid, or God doesn't exist. I mean how can you have faith in the afterlife? For all we know God could be evil, which would explain why theres suffering in the world.
Speaking of which, has anyone one seen or read "The DaVinci code"?

[khil1]

I have not read it or seen the movie yet.

Why cannot God know be omniscient? Being God, be His very nature, He is omniscient.

How hard is it to have faith in some that you see in front of you? You do you have faith that your looking at monitor? No, you know it is there, because you can see and touch it. But God asks us for faith, not us believing in Him because we have proof.

Again, be the very definition of God, He cannot be evil, the reason there is evil in the world is because He gave us free-will.