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God does have a flaw. As I said, God trusted very most the only Angel who betrayed him. God was proven wrong!
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05-24-2006, 03:50 PM
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Was He? Just because He trusted does not mean he was wrong.
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KEfka, I know that in the past, the in the church used it for their own gain at times. They did do things that are horid. But are you going to hold the crimes of our ancestors against us? If you do not want to believe the things you believe the changed, then do not believe them.
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05-24-2006, 04:11 PM
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KEfka, I know that in the past, the in the church used it for their own gain at times. They did do things that are horid. But are you going to hold the crimes of our ancestors against us? If you do not want to believe the things you believe the changed, then do not believe them.
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The trouble is how do we recognize the parts of the Bible they changed and the parts of the Bible they didn't change?
A fact is that the Christian Church did change some of the things to gain high power, as we all know people in high positions in the church are all millionaires.
Religion in my eyes should be something everyone should share, religion shouldn't be profitable.
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God does have a flaw. As I said, God trusted very most the only Angel who betrayed him. God was proven wrong!
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05-24-2006, 04:15 PM
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Yes, He trusted Lucifer. Lucifer was suffering from the sin of jealousy, towards Adam and Eve. Lucifer lied to them, tempted Eve into eating the apple. She ate the apple, and made Adam do the same. They gained knowledge, but sacraficed their innocence. For disobeying God, they were forced to leave the garden. Lucifer's punishment was being cast out from heaven.
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05-24-2006, 04:22 PM
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No, perfection is not impossible, here on earth it is almost impossible and incredibly unlikely for a human but it can happen.
The Catholic Church maybe there are millionaires, but for most churches, they just survive. Most churches are not paying their pastors, thousands and thousands of dollars; I think they should get paid a fair amount of money because they need to be able to support their family but few ever become rich.
You said some people in the church changed part of the bible, but:
1. The church was very strict about anything changing.
2. You can go back to the bible in Greek and see that there have been few changes.
3. At some point you have to trust that God would preserve the bible.
Edit: But that still does not mean that God has a flaw.
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05-24-2006, 04:32 PM
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God should have known Lucifer was a sinner, and would not repent what he did!
Also, tell me one person that is perfect?
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05-24-2006, 04:44 PM
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Jesus.
God did know, but he still let him chose. God knows everything, past, present, future, everything.
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But God didn't know until he saw the snake and knew that lucifer had done. He did now know why Adam and Eve would not come before him.
And Jesus wasn't perfect. He allowed, more than once, his anger to control him.
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But was that a sin? Jesus got angry at humans because they disobeyed His Father and He was going to die for them.
Of course God knew why they would not come to Him but He asked them why, God gave them another choice. We can sin because we have free will.
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This is in response to the world being perfect is a bad thing that u disagreed with,
Now imagine this, every man, woman, and child are perfect, but isnt perfection being comfortable with ur own body? Or ist it the typical " Put Plastic in ur breasts and go blonde" look? Now imagine the only way everyone of this "perfection" would be like, Would everyone look the same? Or would it be that everyone is unique in there own way? If so, than whats so different about perfection today? Everyone has a beauty today but changes it to the latest style or craze. Well if this is perfection, than whats perfect about it? On the other hand, If everyone were to look exactly the same, everyone is equal, and the world is good, than what was so bad against Hitler's idea of blonde haired, blue eyed humans. There will be arrogogance and so called "superiority" in life but that doesnt change the fact thet there ur equal. So if what i just said is perfection than whats so different from our world now, If Africans are dying every second, soldiers are being sent to war, and massacres and natural disasters destroying the world, than what is so forgiving about god? How does he have pity? And the last time someone said that they saw jesus was 2000 years ago, now is today compared to then better or worse? we have machines that are killing the planet, People Starving and dying STILL because of religion, now if this world doesnt have a flaw, tell me what isnt? So if this "God" cares so much about us, then why is this planet dying faster than it should. Should our Children suffer for it? Should there Children suffer and so on? If This God has pity and mercy than why doesnt he doing something about it and shown himself in the last 2000 years.
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