The Death Penalty - Page 3 - Final Fantasy Net

dark angel · #21 08-21-2006, 07:21 PM

^well said i agree...........

And ive always thought that anybody who takes another persons life shud be hung or shot, I dont wanta sound religious or nottin but the bible clearly states an eye for an eye and so on so i think that, that shud apply to killings aswell and if its a mass murderer tortue him before he dies, the same applys to peidofiles, rapists and KKK members and any other sicko's out there...That abuse or torment humanity.........

The Graceful Assassin · #22 08-22-2006, 04:49 PM

There is no point in torture. It wastes time and noone learns anything from it. Think about how stupid that sounds "We're gonna torture you and then kill you". That makes no f*cking sense!

Bond of Flames I get what you're trying to say but I still disagree with you. What you speak of is that human life isn't equal and some people just deserve to die.

dark angel · #23 08-22-2006, 07:52 PM

Humm I supose your right it does sound f'in pointless..........

Though BOF is right in some respects, we all started out equal when we we're born then by chosing the paths that lead us to different outcomes some of us may lower there 'score' by doing somthing well out of order...

DayBreak Bahamut · #24 08-23-2006, 02:04 AM

To moi, I believe that the Death Penalty is the choice of the people for certain countries and shouldnt be forced on others, as for me myself...Im not really sure.

This again, like my most other arguments and quarrels can be looked at from different angle, theory examples

Osama does not recieve the death penalty, and serves his time and is still living. And Let us assume that he completes another terrorist attack. Would'nt the death penalty have saved hundreds of people at the price of one mans life?

Again, there is the other situation. Lets say a man is charged for murder of his wife and is sentenced to death. Although all the facts and evidence point to him, nothing and i repeat NOTHING in this world is 100% true or proven.

So if this man is innocent, yet the court sees the evidence and because of there "Justice" believe he is guilty, and is killed. Is this right? Now the result of something like this, is the sacrifice of one man, that saved the murders life? And whos fault is that? The "Court" who believes in Evidence and fingerprints.

So if I were to choose, I would make rather EXTREME specific rules for the death penalty, such as if the man confesses, go ahead. You may have to take a chance with believing that its him, but thats a better decision then the court using "evidence"

Thats my opinion anyways, Im probably gonna be rejected by someone now :P

The Graceful Assassin · #25 08-23-2006, 04:30 AM

No I understand. Like I said, when it comes to this kind of stuff, we'll never be able to decide what is absolute "right" or "best". I admit, to some extent, the death penalty is necessary. My religion comes into play as well though. If there is an afterlife, and the judgement is how we believe it to be, you're basically sentencing someone to endure unimaginable horrors in the pits of hell for all eternity if you give them the death sentence for their actions. No opportunity to repent...

There are cases when we see it as necessary to condemn someone to death, and other times, people are given the death Penalty wrongly. What it comes down to I guess is your opinion on what is right and wrong, best and worst, just and injust...

DayBreak Bahamut · #26 08-23-2006, 12:06 PM

Thats basicaly it, I think the people should vote on weather a victim is guilty or not. At least its not the damn Court...

bond of flames 2.0 · #27 08-23-2006, 01:55 PM

Hey graceless didn't you heard what i said even if you go to hell you are only tortured for as long as it takes for god to forgive you for your sins hell isn't eternal its more like a stockade where you get ripped apart by demons and technically eternity doesn't exist like infinity you can't count to it cuz its not an ending its a statement for a number sequence with no end and technically life will end for everyone sooner or later. and no i don't believe that some people just have to die cuz if i did for everything that i have done with my life i would want me done just for the guilt. as for the death sentence its necesary for the crime like in osama's case or saddam's or any of the terrorists but if a guy is framed and sentenced to the death penalty without "acurate evidance" then it is unnecisary. yeah and I agree with DA about the sickos in the world like peidofiles, rapists and KKK but they only deserve it to the degree of how bad their case is like if it is a rapist who has killed many many victims during the rape or a seriel peidofile. But the kkk member yeah they should get it cuz they not only get at blacks the get at christians or catholics or what ever religion has some faith or beliefe in the cross.

DayBreak Bahamut · #28 08-23-2006, 02:19 PM

Well, im pretty sure there are around 9 levels of hell. And the last is Malebolgia, and it states that you are beside satan himself. Its full of ice from his beating wings, and your trapped in ice FOR ETERNITY

And if someone goes to hell, why the heck would God releave them of there sins? They did something wrong and are paying for it. Doesnt that basicaly mean that you could be a serial killer and only be in hell for a certain amount of time? Then he goes to paradise? Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. The people that go to hell should deserve it. I dont even believe in religion and i think thats stupid

bond of flames 2.0 · #29 08-23-2006, 02:54 PM

I don't know do I look religious i just saw that shit on the discovery channel and it was about hell in all religions and most of the time they said something at the end about being relived of your sins. And also although you suffer god's wrath he is still a forgiving god and when well what the hell ever. still people should be...I lost my thought damnit

The Graceful Assassin · #30 08-23-2006, 04:56 PM

Well for someone who "just saw it on the discovery channel" you make it sound like you believe in it. That would make no sense, you might be thinking about Purgatory. But if you spent only a certain amount of time in hell that would promote people to do bad things in their life. Their mentality could be like " I don't care if what I'm doing is wrong, I'll only be in hell for so long and then I'll go to heaven even though I don't deserve it." Plus I was referring to the Death Penalty from a religious standpoint under the circumstances that there IS an afterlife.