09-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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I never said they needed to use those.......why not give them the punishment for the crime that got them in there.....an eye for an eye.......
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09-07-2006, 02:53 PM
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Two wrongs = Right
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09-07-2006, 05:23 PM
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09-07-2006, 10:06 PM
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sarcasm is the better part of being a jackass lol
So XIII do you believe in equality among humans or repenting?
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09-08-2006, 02:34 AM
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Yes i do and I know what your thinking. Yes they can repent and I know that, but I'm talking about the people who continuously kill people for what? NO REASON. Yes they can repent but I just don't think they deserve to live after taking the lives away of people. I guess it is wrong to say kill them and I don't exactly agree with myself on this one. I've been debating this ever since i first read Deathnote
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09-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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When you first posted you were all for the death penalty... Changing our mind a bit?
if you like death note look in the web family section
We all make mistakes. On a larger scale, people murder. On a smaller scale, people lie. Both are wrong. and you say that one does not deserve to live after making a mistake. They can repent if they are truly sorry and I can't imagine the guilt I'd feel if I ever condemned someone like that. No second chance? Unless it is agreed that the person is ABSOLUTELY unchangeable in their ways and that they will always prove to be a danger to themselves and others, I don't believe in the death penalty
I'll give you the same quote I said before. Here is the logic of the death penalty: "You killed so to justify that we get to kill you"
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09-08-2006, 10:17 PM
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Ok let me ask you a question. So youre saying we should not kill people who have murdered millions such as Osama and Sadam? Youre saying that you killed so it justifies we can kill you. that is exactly what it means. If your in the army or have been in Iraq your going to find it very hard not to kill someone from alqueda(totally mispelled that lol) seeing as they endanger peoples lives. If a person slaughtered your whole family would you still have the same opinion? I think not, so there is no real answer to this just opinions but i'm all for the death penalty so that's my opinion.
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I agree with you on one thing. Let's say that a man murdered someone and he's been given the death sentence. That's basically saying "You killed someone , so we're gonna kill you to teach yoo a lesson". There is no justification, it's hypocrisy. In the end noone should have the power to take another man's life and yet... that is the way it is. Concerning your examples, we have plenty of right to own a cat or dog so long as they are treated well. We're actually pampering them compared to the alternative wild, and I'm sure they like that XD. As for police and their power, well aren't they just trying to prevent the sensless killing in the first place [at least the ones who aren't corrupted]. And if they HAVE to kill someone, isn't it better that one life is lost than five or ten, as horrible as that sounds? We do make our own rules in the end, but I think it's for the best.
For some I can see why they approve of the death penalty. Imagine your whole family was killed by one man. Would you not want to kill him. As much as I am against it, I know I would be tempted like hell to strangle him with my own hands. We can be blinded by fury. So say they kill the man and people are outraged on both sides of the debate. Can you blame relatives for wanting him dead. From the outside, from our point of view, he should not be killed. But that is because it didn't happen to us, so we know not of what it feels like. So in the end, even if killing him was "wrong", some things will never be justified or classified as the right or wrong choice. After all, right and wrong are relative to the person. That's why I think it wrong while others think it to be right.
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I already spoke of the murder thing and I don't think you're getting my point.
First of all, NO MATTER WHAT, it is not our place to take another man's life, but sometimes we must. Second of all, I wasn't friggin referring to some psycho genecide dictator like Hitler or Saddam, just a regular murderer
And even then we could use Saddam for information and who's to say he can't be rehabilitated, though unlikely. But anger blinds us from seeing the right choice from a neutral standpoint, which is sadly the reason why the death penalty was ever created
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