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Old 08-31-2005, 02:14 PM
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Ok...just don't jump down my throat?
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sorry I'm just passionate about such things.
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The universe is all the planets and solar systems which would be destroyed by the infinity which would be created which would cause a monumental black hole which would annihalate everything.

Why?
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Surely from your original thesis, you admit that there is at least a miniscule chance that you could stumble across a paralell universe that is just right for you and that be some twist in its creation you alone (one person) can jump there?

as for the energy required, i can not defeat the fact that the creation or loss of energy is impossible, so something would have to replace the energy you took with you (in the form of matter and other mediums of energy)

my only answer to this is somewhat akin to your theory that the universe you jumped to would fill up with infinite amounts of you.
My theory is that instead of all the paralell you's jumping to the same universe, they would all jump across to the next paralell universe along the infinite web of paralell universes.

so as you left your universe, a paralell you would jump in at the same point as you left and the total amount of energy in the universe would not change.

this however, owing to the differences between the you's in the paralell universees would surely cause utter chaos.

for example, in this universe, a you that had previously resided in a universe with a much different circumstance on earth (everyone is 100 times bigger than on our earth)

my conclusion is that our species should not meddle with things of this grandure and possibly end all existence...yet...
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Why?

No you are being intentionally stupid.

This INIFINITE mass would have such an incredible pull of gravity, that a black hole would be created that would continue to grow in size expodentially, destroying EVERTHING. CAusing an equivalent of the big crunch, except it would be forever growing bigger.
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No you are being intentionally stupid.

This INIFINITE mass would have such an incredible pull of gravity, that a black hole would be created that would continue to grow in size expodentially, destroying EVERTHING. CAusing an equivalent of the big crunch, except it would be forever growing bigger.

1) You just said that space was the only thing that was infinite.

2) Surely if the number of alternate universes (and thus, mass within) is infinite, then there would be no bounds for the "gravity" to pull upon, it would be equalled by another universe, and that by another, and that by another and so on.

3) Why would a black hole be created?

4) Why would the Black Hole destroy everything?

The point I'm getting to with these unanswerable questions is that we just don't know enough to discount anything. Or indeed prove anything.

It's improbable that a 16 year old with a vision is going to hit on much with wild speculation. (I'm not implying I could either).
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1) You just said that space was the only thing that was infinite.

no I said space, and the amount of mass entering the universe that is being jumped into is infinite

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2) Surely if the number of alternate universes (and thus, mass within) is infinite, then there would be no bounds for the "gravity" to pull upon, it would be equalled by another universe, and that by another, and that by another and so on.

no because it is all jumping into one. where the collective mass can interact

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3) Why would a black hole be created?

see awnser to Q 2.

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4) Why would the Black Hole destroy everything?

because of the ininite amount of Mass it has, it's gravity must also = ininity, so it must draw EVERYTHING in that universe towards it.

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The point I'm getting to with these unanswerable questions is that we just don't know enough to discount anything. Or indeed prove anything.

we could never do it anyway because my third point of the very first post was that the energy required would probably be more than all the energy in the universe.

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t's improbable that a 16 year old with a vision is going to hit on much with wild speculation. (I'm not implying I could either).

I tried to awnser your "unawnserable" questions Kain :P
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I tried to awnser your "unawnserable" questions Kain :P

"Tried" being the operable word. I've yet to see anything that isn't outlandishly contradictory.

You're ASSUMING, you can't ASSUME to know what would happen when (or more appropriately "if") two or more parallel universes collide, even if it's possible, (Which I doubt) you're making swooping judgements that you can't even begin to back up.

I mean, all of your answer stem from this one claim, which I have disproved (and you've seemed to have ignored).

You assume that all the matter would jump to one place, WHY WOULD IT DO THAT? In addition, how could it do that?

If there is an infinite number of parallel universes, then it must be true to say that anyone universe will have infinite number of universes next to it.

Which would (if by your logic they withhold mass, which must be equal as the mass values are all infinite) stop anything from affecting a universe (or several) aside from it's original motion (which is impossible to determine in itself). Unless of course you are suggesting there's a value GREATER than infinity? In which case I wholeheartedly concede.

I'll say no more on the matter, as discussing "infinity" can lead merely to arguements, which I am, at this point, to lazy to contradict.
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