The U.S. Government Thread

[Snaggle_Tongue]

The government needs and wants money. That is understood.
Everyone, especially in amerca, has the right to be extreme individualists. Even though it's not working. Why especially america, you ask? Because america are putting human tags on people. They can know where you go, what ypu but, etc..at the touch of a button.
Hell yeah, you want to paranoid.
However, coffee doesn't bleed. And the government, through it's need of money, has learned to yearn it, once it gets enough it wants more. It's incredibly corrupt.
Besides, Satan has more intelligence than President Bush. Bush only has the IQ of a smart monkey..quite literally. It is between 95-105.

Edit: Oh, and the government may want to do well, but Bush doesn't. He scammed him way in the first and second time by counting votes as He (or the person he paid) chose.

[RAGNAROCK]

Americas always whining at least bush gets to make the stupid decisions and tony blair just follows seriously if bush drove off cliff tony blair would bloody follow and yet the only other choice we could seriously of had as prime minister was MICHEAL HOWARD good god can you imagine that

p.s no insult intended to non whiniarys of america

[Snaggle_Tongue]

haha, imagine "The lovely party" from Dead Ringers becoming the english leaders.
Couldn't get much worse!
I think at the moment it'd be best to go lib.dem, but not BNP, especially with the countries current racial turmoil. Once Labour became better it might be good to vote them back in but..well, pigs can't fly

[vivi_is_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by puddles123

And sometimes the government can make mistakes. Human beings make mistakes, and so can the government. I got rather annoyed by the government's failure to help victims of Hurricane Rita immediately, but you have to put it into perspective. Shit happens. .

Bleak point of the day
Shit happens is acceptable when its something little like a school murdering (something like Columbine, with 14 deaths) but not when 250,000+ people (mostly poverty stricken african americans) are left in martial law without food, clean water, or any personal property

[puddles123]

But regardless of the magnitude of some mistakes, you have to admit that no government is perfect. I was not personally affected by the succession of hurricanes, but it just seems ridiculous to me to say that you hate or don't hate the government. If you want to live under a government, you have to understand that no goverment is perfect. If we were living under a totalitarian militaristic government, then that government would have immediately sent in troops to quell any disturbance to the order, and would likely have saved more lives. After all, under such a society there would be a far larger military than the one we have now, and thus would be better prepared for any such disruption. But this does not make this government any better. The relative inability to deal with sudden disasters like this seems a failure of democracy, not of specifically the Bush administration. Everyone was caught off guard by the September 11th incident as well.

[Snaggle_Tongue]

we didnt choose to live under them, remember?
our ancestors did
back in the old days.
oh, and didn't you notice, it took less time for bush to react to Katrina than it did to the tsunami? Thats because there's an international law saying he has to respond within a certain time to international disasters. HE told people to stay in the superbowl. HE knew that the dykes hadn't been repaired for along time. HE blamed the people who stayed there.

[puddles123]

Are you suggesting that Bush is a very evil man who wants nothing more than to kill us all or whatever it takes to get lots of money and ultimate power?

[vivi_is_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by puddles123

Are you suggesting that Bush is a very evil man who wants nothing more than to kill us all or whatever it takes to get lots of money and ultimate power?

He hits the nail on the head

Youre a republican obviously, and im sorry but im one of those arrogant far left liberals who thinks hes way above you, so im not going to argue with you

[Hazuki Sensi]

Bush isnt evil, hes just pushing for what he thinks is right, from a certian ideology, that of the right wing religous neo-conservative stand, to promote such political viewpoints may appear good and rightous to some but truly immoral to others, as I right winger myself I must say that I dont agree with the majority of his policies, such as the war in iraq, im kinda liberal when it comes to issues of privacy and religion but im totaly right wing when it comes to ideas of law and order, and of social standards and behavoir (hell if i had the chance I would so ban emos simply for making supermarket car parks look untidy lol)

Bush is just pushing his and his parties adgenda, there is no good and evil, its just politics, everyone has a subjective view and the great thing is that there is no real right answer.

[vivi_is_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by Hazuki Sensi

Bush isnt evil, hes just pushing for what he thinks is right, from a certian ideology, that of the right wing religous neo-conservative stand, to promote such political viewpoints may appear good and rightous to some but truly immoral to others, as I right winger myself I must say that I dont agree with the majority of his policies, such as the war in iraq, im kinda liberal when it comes to issues of privacy and religion but im totaly right wing when it comes to ideas of law and order, and of social standards and behavoir (hell if i had the chance I would so ban emos simply for making supermarket car parks look untidy lol)

Bush is just pushing his and his parties adgenda, there is no good and evil, its just politics, everyone has a subjective view and the great thing is that there is no real right answer.

Right wing my arse, you vote for the Lib Dems