when you die do you have.......

[BadMonkey101]

I have always been thinmking when you die do you go to heaven or hell? And if you do do you have houses and the same necesities as bieng alive?

[Son of Sephiroth]

who cares? I mean getting to heaven is the important thing, right?

[Snaggle_Tongue]

I think it doesn't matter.
Hell is bad; Heaven is good.
Once you go to either, you're there for eternity. Don't worry 'till it happens.

[Hazuki Sensi]

Niether happens, as a biological process, thought comes to a stop just like all of lifes processes - simple as, its lights out.

[Snaggle_Tongue]

Ah, but this thread is working upon the assumption you believe in them, is it not? Or I would've replied in much the same way.

[Hazuki Sensi]

Ok, if we look at it at a purely theological level then we can see some answers. Angels in hevan are supposed to be without sin - so no lust, envy, hatred, desire etc etc, in other words theyre totally flat and empty beings, how anyone can be happy without any form of envy, passion and desire is beyond me, but anyway the bible says its paradise without any good reason so lets take it as gold

If an angel is technically a dead human, then human limitations do not apply, so things like food etc would not matter - Angels are supposed to revel in God's love and have no other need, as need would lead to desire and thats a no-no

So in answer to your question - no an angel wouldnt need anything thats confined to our human view of needs, maybe now you can stat to see why I think its all complete tripe in the first place....

[Kain Highwind]

Originally Posted by Hazuki Sensi

Ok, if we look at it at a purely theological level then we can see some answers. Angels in hevan are supposed to be without sin - so no lust, envy, hatred, desire etc etc, in other words theyre totally flat and empty beings, how anyone can be happy without any form of envy, passion and desire is beyond me, but anyway the bible says its paradise without any good reason so lets take it as gold

If an angel is technically a dead human, then human limitations do not apply, so things like food etc would not matter - Angels are supposed to revel in God's love and have no other need, as need would lead to desire and thats a no-no

So in answer to your question - no an angel wouldnt need anything thats confined to our human view of needs, maybe now you can stat to see why I think its all complete tripe in the first place....

Where are you getting your "facts" from? Most of that seemed like you made it up.

[Hazuki Sensi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels - basic info

http://www.catholic.com/library/Imma..._and_Assum.asp - theological debate about reason and the notion of no sin -

The objection is also raised that if Mary were without sin, she would be equal to God. In the beginning, God created Adam, Eve, and the angels without sin, but none were equal to God. Most of the angels never sinned, and all souls in heaven are without sin. This does not detract from the glory of God, but manifests it by the work he has done in sanctifying his creation. Sinning does not make one human. On the contrary, it is when man is without sin that he is most fully what God intends him to be.

Quoted from above article

From Wikipedia article on heaven -

heaven is a return to the pre-fallen state of humanity, a second and new Garden of Eden, in which humanity is reunited with God in a perfect and natural state of eternal existence.



All of this is part of a much larger religious debate, Ive been interested in theology for many years and thought Id share my views in regards to the forum topic. Cant recall every single source on the issue because Ive been reading about it for many years, but Wikipedia is generally my starting point because its such an excellent resource for information

[Kain Highwind]

I think you've kind of missed the point of the majority of those texts.

[Hazuki Sensi]

Ok just for you ill repeat it -


All of this is part of a much larger religious debate, Ive been interested in theology for many years and thought Id share my views in regards to the forum topic. Cant recall every single source on the issue because Ive been reading about it for many years, but Wikipedia is generally my starting point because its such an excellent resource for information.

In other words - yes Ive concented that those specific texts are not the basis of what ive said rather Ive used them to come to my own conclusions based on their evidence, when your old enough to go to university youll see that rather then regurgitating other peoples ideas your supposed to study evidence to come to your own viewpoint, which is what I did here.