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Old 04-28-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default The angels and the Demons...

We know that the angels are the ultimate good.

We know that demons are the purest evil.


what about the people in between?
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the people i between all have their demon and angels but they carry them inside them (no not in the way of eating them) some people have more demons than angels and vice versa
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:05 AM
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Kayam...I was referring to the Nephilim.
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In my opinion, ''angels'' and ''demons'' are merely metaphors sown from myth in order to define good and evil, and the blatant regression of man in the acceptance of the relativity thereof.

And all those ''Otherkin'', Nephilim, Vampire or Therian or what have you need to get some psychological definitions established for their obvious mental conditions or frail terms of acceptance.

Dysphoria. When people realize this common state of the self, they might indeed realize that they are not in between anything, aside from perhaps their own illusions of grandeur, or lack thereof.
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:02 AM
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interesting theory, but I'm talking about them as physical beings that can and do affect our lives. of course, this is all theoretical, and hypothetical.
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I understand the point fully, and responded with my opinion in regards to the point that these things do not exist.

However, perhaps you have some beliefs you would like to share? It might be more interesting then my pessimistic Orobouros Syndrome.
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better oroboruos than Oedipus, right? I can't really expound on theories, but I'm saying if they did...hypothetically, of course...exist, would they be considered damned...or saved?
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I would presume that this depends on the religious direction of belief.

Some say we have free will, and our destination after death depends on our acts, so we decide our own damnation or salvation.

If, however, everything is predestined, as in more fatalistic religious views, then we are either damned or not, depending on one's personal perception of ''God'', or whatever deity one believes in.

But this is why there can be no theories on this, as even though it might be general knowledge that good and evil are relative, it still remains that the only thing we know or witness about angels and demons (Which seem to, first of all, represent these aspects, hence my bringing it up all the time.) or other mythical beings are purely just that; myth. They are beliefs, not theories.
However, I could understand the oppression with which religion and its many philosophies have been geared that such subjects are almost conditioned and considered as absolute.
But I'll not be had, heh.

It all depends on one's perception, really. Do you feel ''damned'' or forsaken for your lack of choice in your life? Someone else faced with the same situation might indeed feel blessed.

Do you believe you have free will or none at all? Even if your life is good, would you not feel damned in knowing, or at least believing, that you have no choice in the matter?

...and Oedipus...I never said anything about that. I meant I am a one track mind when it comes to philosophy or spirituality, so do not listen to me too much, or at the very least, please, no insinuation about psychological conditions towards my father.
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Actually, it would be to your mother and sister, remember? Slept with his sister, killed his father, married his mother...lol
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Still has absolutely nothing to do with Orobouros though..
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