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Old 01-23-2008, 10:47 AM
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I haven't got a clue....

And in England a Fraggle is now used as a derogatory term, so I kinda got it
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:21 PM
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well. . .kh deserves its credit, i guess. . .but hey. . .some spin off are bound to show up know and then, especially when a series is so popular. .
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Oh yes indeed, I will classify myself in the old fogey classification along with MidgarFanatic.

*Waves cane at all the Kingdom Hearts fans.*

Er...But yes, you are correct, games like Final Fantasy Tactics really did force the player to use their brains and strategic methods, which I really appreciated. Of course, you could always grind your levels and make the event battles so easy, and should you accept Orlandu within your party, the name of the game should change to Final Fantasy Massacre...but it really was intricate with strategy elements-such as the classic battle with Elmdor, and stealing away his weapon and armour, or having Ramza learn Ultima from the dancers. My god, I used to have a thick head of hair before.
It was not just about brute strength alone-should you wish to master all, a simple level 99 alone would not help.

Now, they have transformed my beloved Tactics series with judges who condemn me with handicaps and buggers who keep stealing my territory. There may be some slight strategic elements within, but nowhere near as wonderful and genuine as in the original.

Of course, that as well was for a different audience, and so I can understand that kingdom Heart's success is not merely a cash in aspect, and I suppose for what it is, it must be a great game. But it turned me right off, for reasons I've already listed.
I guess I simply resent being old, and having what I loved stored away. Meh, well they still come out with re-releases, and like MidgarFanatic stated, Final Fantasy Tactics gave birth to my love of tactical role playing games. I never did play Ogre Battle, but I have found plenty of other ones, such as Vandal Hearts, Kartia or later ones such as Stella Deus. I also own Hoshigami, but I've not tried it yet.

I probably should before I start whining that they do not make brain wracking games like they used to. But once again, taste has much to do with it...I cannot get into quirky and happy non depressive games like Kingdom Hearts or Disgaea...even if the latter should, by all rights, suit my interests.

So this may play a role for many desensitised folks just as much? Still, even with such consideration, it is no joke that the difficulty and brain factor in many games and their gameplay is replaced by more simple things. But now I shall proceed to chase mine own tail, heh. besides, not all Final Fantasy games are dark and depressive, and I still enjoy most of them.
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I'm really enjoying playing Tactics (the remake for the PSP with extra Balthier), I don't think I would enjoy Tactics Advance though it looks far too surreal even for my liking.

The story of Tactics has really grabbed me- I'm still just in chapter II but I'm already intrigued by Delita's role in the saving of the princess.I'm growing to like Ramza now too, I didn't think much to him at first but now he's kinda cool ^^
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Oh the story in Tactics is SO magnificent. One of the best role playing stories I have ever seen. I will not say anymore though, so as to not spoil anything...but seriously, it is so intelligent and well crafted. A bit confusing actually, but nothing a few playthroughs cannot fix.
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Dunno about Tactics, but any tactical game entertains me. Sometimes it is useful to turn on your logical thinking plaing a game ^_^
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Yay I can't wait!!!

I'm interested to see how Balthier has been slotted into the story, having only found out recently that the game is a remake. Seeing the War Of The Lions name on the front made me think it was a sequel of some sort, but I'm glad I'm getting a chance to play the original in some way (I bet it's hard work trying to find the PS1 version )

I was going to ask how does Cloud come into this story? Hehehe I know I shouldn't be asking for spoilers, but I'm really curious
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When I feel such a curiousity to a game, that meens that the game is REALY good =P
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SPOILERS Cloud has nothing much to do with the story. You get him through a series of specific but optional events, and it would appear that he was a victim of involuntary time travelling. He does not know what he is doing in the world of Ivalice, and is pretty much scoobied when explanations are attempted. It stops there after he joins your campaign, hoping for some way to get home. I hope that you have purchased a flower from Aerith in the beginning though, for if not, you cannot get him.

He does not really relate to the plot, but appears as a secret character for the fun of it. He starts on level 1 though, and is so weak by the time you can have him. Build him up however, and he will learn all the limit breaks he had in FFVII as special attacks, plus a new one, Cherry blossom.-END OF SPOILERS

Actually, FFTactics is not so hard to find...seeing as it was a Greatest Hits copy, there are quite a few of them. I actually own two copies of them. An original and a Greatest Hits.

And yes MidgarFanatic, I know about those Fraggles...it would be scary indeed, but somehow, I would not be so surprised if they were there. Oh well, in my opinion the lowest could possibly not sink any further. XD

Oh, and fun fact, according to FFXII, Ivalice is pronounced as ''Awa-leas''.
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Not so hard to find, huh? OK, I'll check ^_^
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