Annoyance: Hannah Montana & High School Musical - Final Fantasy Net

Kaoru Hitachiin · #1 01-26-2008, 03:32 PM

I'd just like to ask if people who enjoy this 'star' (Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana) are entirely retarded... Because that's what it seems to me... First, form what I gather of the series, it's a cheap, live-action rip-off of Jem for people of preschool intelligence... And yet she's so popular amongst people at my high school. It makes me wonder if brains are currently a rarity among the youth of today... It really takes the cake when I find out they've decided to turn her 'tour' into a 3D movie... What would be so impressive about seeing a pre-pubescent girl sing and dance on a 3D stage? Unless you're some huge sicko that's obsessed about underage girls... Yeah... Disney isn't over-advertising... :sarcasm:

Then, there's High School Musical. Again, stupid, IMHO, yet the kids at my High School eat it up... Hell, there's a third one in the works already, and I'm never gonna hear the end of High School Musical till the stars are all in their 50's ending with High School Reunion Musical 32. :/ As for that girl who had nude photos of herself on the internet, Disney should definitely fire her. I don't give a s*** about continuity of a bunch of retarded, network TV musicals... Little kids watch them too, and what if they look up their favorite actress from the stupid show on the internet and find a damned nude photo of her...?

Miss Lockheart · #2 01-26-2008, 04:02 PM

Oh god, this stupidity has infiltrated us here in England too, courtesy of America (no offense there's no English people like Hanna Montana

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Even my son won't watch that, he will be 3 in May and he already has the intelligence to know that Postman Pat and Pingu totally out-do those programs. They are supposedly made for an older audience I know, but I would still place them in the same category.

I think it's highly irresponsible to subject kids to that kind of show anyway- I know we all had moments when we wished we were famous when we were kids, but it wasn't anywhere as bad as today. Kids these days see all the glorified stardom in these shows, and they just want to be that person. And the people who make the shows know that, because they know that dreams sell. Heck, I suppose you could say the same about our kind of games, we love the "fantasy" of it all. But we also know the difference between fantasy and reality, which the younger kids have more trouble with. They make High School Musical look so REAL, like it could really happen to any kid who watches it enough times. Trouble is-

1. No stage school is really that happy and chirpy, believe me I know

2. People very rarely get famous that way, and if they do, they end up like Britney Spears- the fame screws them up.

Which brings me to Zoey 101- which has now been pulled because Little Sister Spears is pregnant at 16. Oooh, can't have that as an example for our children can we? Yet I would say Zoey 101 is much closer to reality than Hannah Montana or High School Musical (I'm not saying I like it, it's just better that's all, minutely).

Hehehe what would they do if one of the cast of High School Musical, or even Miley face herself, got pregnant? Sheesh

Anyway, I'm going off tangent, so I'll summarize. The lines between fantasy and reality are just too blurred, and it's setting these kids up for major disappointment and even depression when they get to high school or even become famous. Unless their parents are seriously lecturing them on what the realities are (which I doubt), then we are going to see a generation of scantily dressed, screwed up wannabes with dreams they've been poorly sold and probably would never attain. It's sad, it really is

Kaoru Hitachiin · #3 01-26-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Lockheart

Anyway, I'm going off tangent, so I'll summarize. The lines between fantasy and reality are just too blurred, and it's setting these kids up for major disappointment and even depression when they get to high school or even become famous. Unless their parents are seriously lecturing them on what the realities are (which I doubt), then we are going to see a generation of scantily dressed, screwed up wannabes with dreams they've been poorly sold and probably would never attain. It's sad, it really is

I agree. I suppose that's why I find shows like this so stupid, and I include Out of Jimmy's Head, Zoey 101, Ned's Declassified, Naked Brothers, and the like all in this... The kids who watch this stuff are impressionable... this includes all the highschoolers that watch this crud... They're impressionable just as much as little child (probably because I find that many high school student have the maturity and mental development of a two-year-old. Another thing that makes me feel the same way is rap music, but that's yet another topic...

Zotar · #4 01-26-2008, 06:14 PM

Great!
just another great reminder of how hopelessly twisted and decadent people in our world can be. I feel greatly depressed again...

*Crys into pillow*

What we really need is a truely awesome role model. the problem is that anyone short of Jesus just wont do. Good thing he's coming.

Terminal Est · #5 01-27-2008, 02:16 AM

*Scratches noggin.*

I've no idea of what you speak, although it reminds me why I ceased to watch television in the first place. The media is a sick thing.

Revenant · #6 01-27-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zotar

Great!
just another great reminder of how hopelessly twisted and decadent people in our world can be. I feel greatly depressed again...

*Crys into pillow*

What we really need is a truely awesome role model. the problem is that anyone short of Jesus just wont do. Good thing he's coming.

Hmmm, that's just memories. No matter existed Jesus or not (I think not)

JET73L · #7 01-28-2008, 05:34 PM

I used to watch (read: have television on for sound while I was reading) some of this sort of thing, but most of the shows I find either incredibbly annoying or refuse to watch on principle. Occasionally, there's a show I'll actually watch an episode of it if it's on and I haven't seen it, but that's pretty rare. My sister, on the other hand, watches it constantly, and High School Musical 2 has been played at our house no less than 8 times (of which I've seen a total of maybe 20 minutes of mind-numbing *what??*ness).

Edit:PS:soiciety's already going down the drain. Feeding stuff like this into kids' heads is only quickening the process by a generation and a half, at most.

Revenant · #8 02-01-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JET73L

Edit:PS:soiciety's already going down the drain. Feeding stuff like this into kids' heads is only quickening the process by a generation and a half, at most.

Yeah, he-he! I knew that all the time! They realy think it is very good. (Hm, mabe it was. When Stalin was alive) They would do better with it if they simplify current aducation sistem.

VITG · #9 02-04-2008, 10:52 AM

Tip of the iceberg.

Miss Lockheart · #10 02-04-2008, 01:54 PM

I wonder how much of this abuse of children is actually government indirect control. We all know that children are growing up much more aware of their world these days, after the blindness they suffered in the Victorian era. Especially after the '60s kids are much more intelligent, they really think hard about everything and they question. In fact that's the most important thing- kids question everything, they ask why. Governments don't like that. If kids are aware of their world then they are much more independant, and therefore much less controllable. As with the people who are more spiritual or aware of nature, the government has to find a way to reign them in, to stop the independant thinking and make sure they can keep a hold of them. We are just one big taskforce to the government, which is why they have to put a stop to awareness and question.

So they approve of these shows for kids so they can induce a kind of tunnel vision in them. If kids are just thinking about fashion, fame, etc then they are muchy less likely to be thinking about the world and how to be independant and escape the ratrace. In fact fashion and fame, the material- if more kids want it, then more money will be made from it, which regardless of who produces it the capital still gets back to the government in the end. It's control disguised as entertainment.

But it gets worse- how many parents are actually watching what their kids watch? How many even care? As long as the kids are occupied, surely it's a good thing right? Parents (both parents usually) have to work, they don't have time to think about the TV their kids are exposed to, or what the impact of it is. And the way the shows are marketed to kids, they are probably the last thing that parents are going to consider when that child's commited suicide because the pressure to conform is just too much. Who would ever suspect Hannah Montana of causing the death of their child? It sounds extreme, but kids are extreme, they are highly impressionable. They aren't being taught to differenciate between reality and fantasy properly, it's sad.

Lately I've really cut down on Jonathan's TV intake. I haven't banned it altogether, that would be silly, but I've been thinking a lot about which programs I want him to watch. It's gonna be harder to keep an eye on him when he's older and I have to work, but perhaps I can get him into a good habit early, and encourage him to think about what he's watching. Not that the government would approve.....