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Old 03-21-2009, 03:39 AM
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Nice. And I don't even remember half the references I packed into those posts, but I'm not exactly sure which possible reference you refer to by Sanders.

No report right now, but I do have a discussion suggestion: Whether you consider certain "zombies" to be zombies or not. For the record, I only consider Romero-style zombies and voodoo zombies true zombies, even though voodoo zombies don;t actually die. I do, however, consider other zombie types zombies, just not "true" zombies, and whether or not I call creatures zombies doesn't always reflect how they place on the scale of true-zombie/zombie/not-zombie.
Here's my response:
Romero's films: Yes
Resident Evil: Mostly. The ones that turn into scythe aliens are beyond the point of being zombies.
28 days later: not zombies.
Shaun of the Dead: yes.
I Am Legend (film): No. I do not care what Word of God says, they're vampires.
The Legend of Zelda: ReDeads: Yes, Stalfos: no.
Wu (legend): yes
Wu (3x3Eyes): not quite

I know i'm not including a lot, but there's no way I can get everything in one post.
Anyone else?
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Nice. And I don't even remember half the references I packed into those posts, but I'm not exactly sure which possible reference you refer to by Sanders.

Lieutenant Sanders...Colonel Sanders, from KFC. I do not know if that was intentional, but ha ha the link was funny to make. XD

Hmm, again, defining the zombie. Well yes, the pinpointing of such may be hard, if we wish to get legitimate about it, because of the unofficial entertainment revisions, but zombies are always one thing; undead. While that word itself might be an oxymoron and only legitimate in Dungeons and Dragons, it still does refer to something, or someone, that is meant to be dead, but which still walks the Earth, and as under its condition, benefits from certain powers. (And extreme drawbacks.)

The disposition, whether spiritual or scientific does not matter, as long as this undead once died, and somehow came back to life, breaching the laws of nature.

Zombies, vampires, and to a certain extent, ghosts and spirits...(Only that ghosts and spirits would be "natural" events of death, unlike "resurrection", and are often believed to exist on a different plain of existence, or an alternate reality than that of the living.)

So undead is like a family, much like "canine" encompasses dogs, if you will.

Someone who has been "infected" and is transformed or modified, for better or worse, is not a zombie, because it is not undead, unless the infection acted after expiration. (Referring to the infected as being undead, and not necessarily a zombie.)

Zombies are the lowest of the undead family, used by necromancers for petty tasks which require no intellectual prowess, while vampires are probably the strongest undead things, sided and seconded by things like nightshades, wights and liches.

A ghoul is very much like a zombie, only it only feasts upon carrion, for example.

Or so this is how I see it...

To follow suit, Romero; true zombies.

Zombie Flesh Eaters; also true zombies, albeit slightly different, and picking up upon primary use of tools and reasoning a little faster than Romero's zombies.

28 days/Weeks; not zombies.

I am Legend; even if they were not originally vampires, those things are NOT zombies. Way too intelligent and physically well maintained to be "zombies". (And zombies do not fear the light.)

So whatever film or other form of entertainment features slow moving rotting corpses which require to feed upon human flesh are zombies.

Resident Evil; True zombies, because most of them fit the proper criteria. At least, the first area zombies in most titles...not talking about mutated monsters.

Silent Hill nurses; not zombies. As they are animated "corpses", they were transformed to savagery, at least in the first game, and never actually died, and as well, they do not seek to eat you, only to kill you.

It gives me an idea for a future zombie defining report however...
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Sounds cool.
And I never even thought of ghouls as zombies. I'll have to decide on them, it seems like it'll take a while to decide one way or the other.

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I've been listening to the radio, and another bunch of people decided that zombies should be a protected species. Not only the normal ones, but the crazy zombies, too. They're not a different species at all, and they should be treated like evil serial killers.
They led a protest up in Oregon, outside of Salem. I guess they thought it would be like to stop the burning of zombies in a town with the same name as where witches were burned. That is wrong on so many levels. They brought a zombie they had stolen from a research facility, and set it free, into the woods. Eight of them were bitten, and the rest were attavked within a week when the people took them away to make them better, or release them like the first zombie. Sometimes the people amaze me with their stupidness.
Like every day, I wish I had more pages for you. Listening to the radio and writing in you stop me being bored, since there's no more television and all of my game boy batteries are gone. I've still got cans of food, and food in the freezer, but I don't know if the police even know I'm here. They might not want to fight the zombies if they don't know about me. I wish my friends were here.
Or my parents.
I wish the monsters were gone.
The journal was found in one of the towns atttacked before the infection was widespread, somewhere in what used to be the southwestern corner of Michigan. Residents included Jackie and Michael Holloway, and their eight year old child, whom school records say skipped at least two grades.
Food stores were exhausted in this and one other house on the other side of town. There were no known survivors.

I don't know why, but I feel it necessary to write at least one utterly depressing story-with-a-twist when I do stuff like this WWZ thread. (The intention was to make you think it was another report by an adult, then slowly let you realize it's a little kid, and everyone else was dead.) I would make a great horror writer, if I didn;t hate myself for writing this sort of depressing stuff.
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I am not very clear on ghouls myself...defining THOSE is even more vague than the zombie. Do the corpses it feeds on come back to life? Do they spread a virus/infection? I do not know.
Eventually however, if we ever do figure all of this out, perhaps it would be fun to put up some kind of undead lexicon in here. And maybe even a time line, or organized list of all our reports. (I do not think we have many dates.)
But I am getting ahead of myself now, heh.

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I would make a great horror writer, if I didn;t hate myself for writing this sort of depressing stuff.

No worse than me writing about a little boy getting chewed up by zombies. >_>

Your stuff is all very good, no need to hate yourself.

And we need to see more of SoS's work. It is rather entertaining. I would also like to do some follow up reports on them, if that is okay.

Ahem, now then.

As we have presented before, insanity had often destroyed human minds during WWZ, before the zombies could destroy the physical envelope. Such cases are, as one might imagine, rather common.
We have another here, this is an official log by renowned psychiatrist, Doctor Robert Loomis, from the University of Hobsend, Ohio.
Formerly known for revolutionizing the psychological study of serial killers and psychopathic folks and offering a rather effective approach on the matter since 2011, which involved what he describes as "Subconscious Extortion Method via Sexual Humiliation", or the "Pyramid Syndrome" for short, we can see that in this logged report, his sanity had dwindled gravely, ridiculing the legitimate methods which he had worked so hard to develop in his career.

Doctor Aaron Hamilton, a long time colleague of Doctor Robert Loomis, had stated some months prior to the secondary wave of the infection that Loomis was not right. Which leads us to wonder if the invasion had simply accelerated and catered to an already declining state of mind.
He was highly active during the commission to administrate human rights to the zombies.

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Report on Analysis

Part I of Analysis; to discover the biological properties which lead to psychological behavior

Awaiting laboratory test results of brain tissue, which will confirm the damage done to the human brain/Meanwhile, standard psychological assessment will follow


I do not believe that this is a virus which transcend the functions of the motorized instinct. Everything runs by emotion, even in the fiercest of animals, albeit on a much more primitive level. I believe that we can find the root of the problem, and perhaps a reversal method, by delving into the psychological mind of the zombie.
To make it express its feelings, and its reasons for its actions.

This is not complicated, although the theories are vague. I suspect mass psychological dysfunction.

Footnote 1-
Nothing had been found on this so called subject of mass psychological dysfunction. It would appear that Loomis had been raving, and included conspiracy, common philosophy and his former expertise in psychology and biology together.


Perhaps a terrorist attack...perhaps viral warfare. But whatever it is, what creates behaviour is emotion. It cannot exist without emotion. The key to understanding these beings is through this.

I have asked the zombie many questions. It would appear that this one is male, and from its identification, its name is Mr. Roland Strode, aged 27, dock worker. Not much else is known.

I began by staring at his tie.

*Doodles of questionable nature. Dried blood.*

The zombie would not answer, only offer wails, moans and outbursts of what seemed to be anger and frustration.

I gave him a pencil and some paper. Asked him to draw a snake, a house, a sun, one, or several trees, and my mother dressed as a Satanist.

It failed. It stabbed itself in the eye with the pencil.

Obviously, the zombie is in denial, using this act of self violence to express its feelings of remorse for its actions. I believe that it was sexually abused by its mother. I will now test that theory.

I pull down my pants, and it makes an attempted grab for my tool. I believe he may be a homosexual.
However, its former actions seemed to suggest that it shows no distinct sexual preference for who it kills and consumes, which, obviously, is meant to represent the sexual violence it suffered as a child.

It needs love, an understanding ear.

The zombie does not respond to my attempts into making it reveal its inner most thoughts. It grows angry. It knows that I speak the truth.

*More doodles, dried stain of something.*

I must get into its brain. Will write follow up to this session once the brain tissue is brought to me.

This log was found near the restrained zombie, who's head appears to have been severely damaged by a blunt object, most likely a hammer. Part of its brain was missing.

Incidentally, the identification for the zombie does not match that of Loomis's statement. This one seemed to have been a young university student by the name of Leonard Meenoyz.

The whereabouts of Dr. Loomis were not discovered.
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anyone can continue any one of my "reports"! They're all little story seeds that the gardener of your imagination can flourish into new stories!

I will produce a new report soon, when I am not tired.
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Oh god, oh god, I just shot Doctor Einbecker. There's a monster loose now, it's somewhere is the hospital, it's going to get me, it's going to kill us all...
[different voice]Is someone in there!? Let me in! The zombie isn;t here right now!
[sound of door opening, footsteps, door closing]
Oh, frogs, you're the guard who shot Lewis!
No! It's... I...
[loud smack]
I saw what happened! You tried to be the big, stupid hero, you should know he'd get hit! If you'd grabbed onto that corpse instead if shooting it like he said, he'd be alive and that thing would be destroyed like it should be!
I'm... I know.
[silence]
I'm leaving a sound recording, in case.. you know, something happens.
Writing it would be a better idea.
You have a pen and paper?
As a matter of fact, I do. It doesn't matter, we just have to stay here until someone stops it. Turn that darn recording program off.
[end of recording]
Body count included all guards on the premises licensed to carry firearms, as well as both nurses and the female pathologist on duty at the same time as Dr Einbacker. It is unknown whether the recorded people were the ones found dead of bite-related blood loss, or those euthanized by the responding medical squad once infection reached a critical state. No bodies were found in the computer lab, and the only blood was small traces of that belonging to the late Doctor Einbacker.

Oh, by the way, I intentionally left this open for the further adventures of whoever these two people are, in case someone (possibly me, though I don;t have any ideas right now) want to continue their story. Maybe they find a camera or something.

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Zombies, zombies, full of dread.
zombies, zombies, think they're dead.
make you sick,
make you die,
then you're one of them instead.
It is unknown how rhymes such as the one above were passed from school to school in the short time between the initial wave of infection, and the second wave and movement of schools to the communal living facilities that towns would set up, combining multiple buildings into a single, zombie-defensive fortress.
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Records of Zombie Sympathizers, and "Fans".
--By social extravagance records keeper, Amanda Hugankis--

WWZ was not all hell and chaos for everyone. It would appear that many fans of the mythological zombie, rendered familiar through entertainement have often wondered what an actual world, or society, would be like, should an invasion similar to that of the films were to occur.

During WWZ, many groups of people had formed "fanclubs", organizations and movements out of self interest in relation to the events.

A group of Punks, or otherwise impoverished youths defined by their hatred of social boundaries and the justice system, had banded together in London, England, and glorified the invasion as a means to perpetuate their ideology on nihilism. Commercial establishments, banking and financial establishments, and even the parliament building were sacked and then destroyed by these people.

The authorities had the zombies as a priority, and so, these youths managed to destroy many important places in the name of anarchy, before engaging in a quick but fierce standstill with the FBI.

In Dublin, Ireland, a pacifist movement for human rights, formerly led by Edwart O' Flaritey, had been harassing other governments, mostly that of the United States, Canada, Mexico, Germany and Russia, for their distinctly aggressive methods utilized to deal with the monsters.
The movement would bring forth philosophical arguments about violence towards the zombies, condemn those who were fighting them as "heartless savages" and then go on to suggest peace seeking methods which were meant to "reach out to these poor fellows".
As a major head in Irish politics and historian of the IRA, O' Flaritey and his movement were soon quickly dismissed, when his methods completely failed to stop any zombie from damaging Ireland. He was soon turned in by the American government, and then back to the Irish authorities for wasting time, supplies and blocking significant and priceless methods of communication around the world with his pacifist speeches.

In the United States, a group of people met in Maine. They all came from a zombie interest online forum formerly known as www,zombiepassions,com
The site dealt with the zombie in entertainment, and was also home to many fictional and hypothetical articles and mock reports on "zombie scenarios".
Unfortunately, their meeting was short lived, as they were destroyed by the undead only two days after said meet up.

Social sciences investigator Brett Hitbraine, however, suggests that because of the ease that these 56 people traveled the infected states of America in order to commune in one place, their deaths was not accidental. The website has been taken down, and no notes by any of the deceased, many of which had become infected themselves, and others never found, had been left.
However, he theorizes that this meet up was meant to cater to collective suicide, in the name of the zombies, as the slogan of their website suggested; AS YOU ARE, AS I WAS, AS I AM, AS YOU'LL SOON BE.
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*extremely artifacted digital video*
Male voice: So, uh, it's me again. Tedd. We got out, but the-
Female voice: Would you quit it with the video log?
*camera pans to a black-haired human shape in white. No other details can be determined*
Male voice: Did you ever think this might be my way of coping with the release of a crazed zombie, like your way of coping is being unreasonable?
Female voice: I'm not unreasonable, you're just being stupid.
Male voice: Well, fine.
*camera swings to point at ground*
Male voice: So tell the camera your name...
Female voice: Annamarie Julia Westburne-Smythe.
Male voice: So, Annamarie, can you describe the zo-
*scraping sound*
Female voice: Quiet!
*camera pans across to what appears to be a glass door with a dark shape behind it*
*minutes pass*
*The shape disappears with another, extended scraping sound*
Male voice, whisper: Is it safe to go now?
Female voice, whisper: We go the other way.
Male voice, whisper: I don't think that was the original one...
Female voice: No, I recognize who it used to be. He was one of the EMTs, so it must have happened on the ambulance, before the patient died.
*short silence*
*door opens*
*light changes, and sound of roughly two people walking up a set of stairs*
*another door, fluorescent light returns*
Male voice, whispering: Do you really think we can get out of here alive?
Female voice: No idea.
Male voice: Oh, no need to whisper, right.
*sound of door opening*
Female voice: Oh, oh my god...
Male voice: What is- oh. tha-
*retching sound*
*sound of door closing*
Male voice, breathing heavily: You... I think you'd be used to this, with your job...
Female voice: You don't get that sort of brutality here. I didn't even see it when... when I was an intern at the... police morgue ohmygodthatwashorrible...
*camera placed on flat surface, probably linoleum floor, white with red streaks*
*several minutes pass*
Female voice: We should-
Male voice: Get going, yeah...
*camera starts moving again*
*door opens, slowly*
*scraping sound*
Female voice: Oh shoot oh shoot!
*door slams shut, camera moves wildly*
*thudding sound*
*running*
*squeaking noise, camera moves suddenly then end of recording*
This disc was found inside a smashed camera near a pool of blood with a large skidmark through it. An adjacent room was found with most of two corpses in, each with a bullet through the skull. One was identified through dental records as one Doctor Edward Murphy (no relation to the Doctor Douglas Murphy in Pathology). The other could not be identified at all. Another adjacent room had the unlocked door smashed open from inside.
No security guard on premises had a given name of Ted, Tedd, Theodore, or Terrence, and only one hospital staff member had any possible variation of the name Ted (Theodore Kalvin, found dead on the fifth floor, one of several people shot to death in a locked room on the fifth floor. None had bite marks, two corpses held pitsols to their own heads. No signs of struggle). No Anna Marie Julia Westburn Smith, or Annamarie Julia Westburne-Smythe, or any combination of the above, was found. The tones used in the video imply sarcasm, and a false name.
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Ha ha JET, I love the first part, is it possible then, that this last one might be an eye wink to The Zombie Chronicles?

The following is an investigative report from the Police Department of Badgerville, on the subject of former "L'Auréole", hair and manicure products company, which was closed down in 2001 on charges of illegal animal testing.
The head of the company, former petty actor miss Britnay Lances, also had a degree in biochemistry and had opened her own pharmaceuticals laboratory in 2009, which dealt with animal testing and gene splicing.
Offered a grant by the Scientific Societies of America, she was extremely lucky, as her passed charges would have otherwise prevented her from owning such a license.

It would appear that she was conducting experiments with the "virus", to see its effects on animals. The distribution of the virus was, simply put, passed on towards subjected animals via a human zombie, of which she quickly disposed of, and waited for the virus to affect the animal.

This is her personal report which was recorded by the authorities who, to this day, have found no trace of the scientist, or of her canine subject. However, the entire experiment fell pray to a general zombie invasion.

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Analysis Report the First

First Wave Analysis; the Solanum Virus

The subject is a four year old German Shepperd, male, named "Raiden" by its former owner, who had the animal confiscated from him due to physical abuse.

Through most a messy method, I have managed to have Raiden get infected by a human zombie, however the results are curious indeed.

Hour of Infection;13:04PM
Animal reacts violently to the zombie's presence, growling and snarling. As it gets bitten, it defends itself most adequately, tearing off an entire arm away from the zombie. The zombie was then shot by myself.

Note-Infected Human Biological Disposition
While the human zombie is very slow as it travels and engages in its idle mode, while attacking, it is extremely fast and aggressive, even against a dog. Will note if this repeats itself in the animal.

13:46PM
After the injury, the dog went into a corner to tend to its wound, and fell asleep. It now awakes.
Changes include
-Abnormal panting
-Constant verification of its surroundings through considerably amplified canine territorial engagement.
-Reddening of the eye whites.
-Increased saliva rejection.

14:22PM
The subject will eat nothing, but drinks plenty of water. Now seems unaware of its injury, which is still affecting it significantly.

14:53PM
Subject presents a difficulty to stand and keep its balance, and emits wails and barks of apparent pain, but there seems to be no definite source it may pinpoint.

Notable Features Not Long Before Death
Discolored coat, whitening of the facial extremities, bloody excrements.
Notable behaviour
Constantly on alert, frequently striking its claws against the walls and floor, and snapping its jaws in the air.

These symptoms increase considerably for the following three days, until it finally expires in a corner.

The dog died, and witnesses state that it came back to life, but reports and descriptions of Undead Raiden are vague, exaggerated and different, coming from many people. It would appear that the experiment was halted due to an invasion of the facilities.

The intents of this experiment by Miss Lances are not confirmed, however early psychological reports, before and during the arrest of 2001 show that she was extremely emotionally imbalanced, coping with this said situation through cruelty, both towards humans and animals.
This, apparently, had began with her at the age of 8.

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So I have posted this report in order to delve into how WWZ affects animals...I am not sure if it is legitimate or not, (If it is, I will post the second part of Undead Raiden's legacy.) but I thought that it would be neat to open that specific branch with said report. If animals are immune or otherwise not affected by the virus, or if the zombies have no interest in animals, then disregard.

But it can also usher in some conversation on "zombie animals" in general though.
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Known Effects of the Solanum virus on animals: a case study.

While it has been known for quite some time that The Solanum virus or the "zombie" virus is the cause of the outbreak, very little has been documented on it's effects on animals other than humans. In this short study, we have listed some of the effects on other animals, particularly mammalian species.

Subject: 3 year old Chimpanzee, Female. Named "Lucy"
Effects: after exposure to virus, became withdrawn from packmates, and showed signs of outward stress. Refused food. After 3 hours, began to tear it's hair out and make signature alarm calls. At this point other packmates moved away, and the males of the group formed a barrier between Lucy and the remaining female chimps and the children, an unpresedented show of teamwork in Chimpanzees. after 5 hours Lucy went into the traditional human coma followed by Death and revival. As a zombie, Lucy showed the feral strength of chimpanzees (which is 3x a human of equivalent size) and began throwing rocks around in a rage, destroying everything she could get her hands on. The males all at once attacked her and beat her into "re-death". No males were bitten in the attack so the effects of secondary transmission can nott be studied.

Note: must study chimpanzee protection behaviour further. could serve some use.

Subject: Domestic cat, 5 years. Male. Named "Tommy"
Effects: After intial exposure, and after 10 hours afterwards, subject showed no outward signs of disease. Acted as normal, ate, drank and slept. For the next day afterwards however, the cat showed signs of illness, including disorientation, vomiting and panic attacks. after 3 more days of this however, the cat returned to normal. When blood was tested, no traces of Solanum virus were found. However, there were also no antibodies either, making this case interesting, but not scientifically useful. Tested on 3 more cats and all results were the same.

Subject: Corvus corvax, the European crow. Aged 1 year. Male. Named "Billy"
Effects: After intial exposure, subject became extremely agitated, refusing to be handled by any of it's handlers. When in cage, ate excessivly and drank all of it's water, before going to sleep for almost a day. When it awoke, it was blind, deaf and unable to orientate itself. No other effects.

Note: must study other species of birds to see further effects, or if this is an isolated case.

Subject: European rat, Aged 4 years. Female. Named "Mary"
Effects: after exposure subjected acted as normal, although it groomed itself a larger than normal amount. Between 3 to 6 hours, it slowly became increasingly violent, biting any other rats in it's cage, and throwing itself against the glass of it's cage. after 7 hours, it fell into a coma, followed by death and re-animation. After re-animation, subject was as violent as before, breaking through it's cage and leading to contamination case ab-71. Rats bitten bu Mary before she fell into her coma showed similar traits, though the time of death was longer.

It seems in several species, once infected, they show no degredation in their agility. Why do humans suffer so much? Further study is required, especially on reptiles, which are hard to find in England.

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